Free Epic Poll
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ysabetwordsmithThe April 7, 2026 Poetry Fishbowl has made its $200 goal, so you get a free epic. Everyone is eligible to vote in this poll. I will keep it open at least until Tuesday night. If there's a clear answer then, I'll close it; otherwise I may leave it open a little while longer. Here are your options...
"Better to Be an Outcast"
Summary: Shahana and Ari encounter a former paladin of Gorrein.
122 lines
"Filled with Things You Don't Know"
Story Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Summary: Marjane works on library decor and gets a new assistant.
98 lines
"Better to Be an Outcast"
Summary: Shahana and Ari encounter a former paladin of Gorrein.
122 lines
"Filled with Things You Don't Know"
Story Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Summary: Marjane works on library decor and gets a new assistant.
98 lines
Poll #34530 Free Epic for the April 7, 2026 Poetry Fishbowl
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 3
Which of these should be the free epic?
General Fund Poll
Apr. 27th, 2026 11:24 pmysabetwordsmithThe general fund currently contains $25. Everyone is eligible to vote in this poll. I will keep it open at least until Tuesday night. If there is a clear answer then, I'll close it. Otherwise I may leave it open at least a little longer. Here are your options...
"No Faster or Firmer Friendships" belongs to Polychrome Heroics and needs $45 to be complete. Josué makes friends with Maria-Vera. You could reveal a bunch of new verses here.
"The Doom Puff" is $15. You could sponsor that outright, and have $10 left for "No Faster or Firmer Friendships."
There are four epics from April: "Any Terms You Offer," "Eat It Happily Because It Is Good," "Edge of Enchantment," and "An Equally Valid Way of Being." This would make a good start on any one of those.
"No Faster or Firmer Friendships" belongs to Polychrome Heroics and needs $45 to be complete. Josué makes friends with Maria-Vera. You could reveal a bunch of new verses here.
"The Doom Puff" is $15. You could sponsor that outright, and have $10 left for "No Faster or Firmer Friendships."
There are four epics from April: "Any Terms You Offer," "Eat It Happily Because It Is Good," "Edge of Enchantment," and "An Equally Valid Way of Being." This would make a good start on any one of those.
Poll #34529 General Fund Poll
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 2
How do you want to distribute the $25?
View Answers
$15 for "The Doom Puff" and $10 toward "No Faster or Firmer Friendships"
2 (100.0%)
ALL $25 into "No Faster or Firmer Friendships"
0 (0.0%)
Open a new epic
0 (0.0%)
Unsold Poems for the April 7, 2026 Poetry Fishbowl
Apr. 27th, 2026 11:13 pmysabetwordsmithThe following poems from the April 7, 2026 Poetry Fishbowl are currently available. Poems may be sponsored via PayPal -- there's a permanent donation button on my Dreamwidth profile page -- or you can write to me and discuss other methods. There are still verses left in the linkback poems "A Sense of Weather Changes," "The Loving Embrace of Night," "Generations of Cooks Past," "Homefree and Clear, " "One Bite at a Time," "Mishpocha," "Changing Your Nature," and "Besa."
"Any Terms You Offer"
Story Date: Monday, March 18, 2019
Summary: Barb feels confused by changes, but he's still standing up for himself.
125 lines, Buy It Now = $63
Gideon came home to find
a puddle of black fur
moping on his bed.
"The Doom Puff"
Summary: What started out as a cute fluffy bunny didn't stay that way.
39 lines, Buy It Now = $15
"Eat It Happily Because It Is Good"
Story Date: Thursday, September 1, 2016
Summary: In which Shiv is a salad snob.
501 lines, Buy It Now = $251
Professor O'Keeffe had done a great job
of showing everyone around Memorial Park,
pointing out where the canna bulbs and
other tender perennials had already been
dug up to store over the winter or how
the rosebushes were dropping leaves.
"Edge of Enchantment"
Story Date: Morning of Thursday, May 1, 2025
Summary: Digby and Maerwynn come to a trading post where they meet the first people in their new world.
357 lines, Buy It Now = $179
In the morning, Digby and Maerwynn
woke to song, but only half of that
came from the familiar birds.
"An Equally Valid Way of Being"
Summary: Xavia finds that becoming a werewolf improves her mental as well as physical health.
66 lines, Buy It Now = $33
Xavia Brown had been
an indifferent college student
and an avid bicycler when
bad bicycle crash left her
with arm and leg impairment
on the left side, a lot of scars,
and chronic pain that made
every day into a struggle.
"Any Terms You Offer"
Story Date: Monday, March 18, 2019
Summary: Barb feels confused by changes, but he's still standing up for himself.
125 lines, Buy It Now = $63
Gideon came home to find
a puddle of black fur
moping on his bed.
"The Doom Puff"
Summary: What started out as a cute fluffy bunny didn't stay that way.
39 lines, Buy It Now = $15
"Eat It Happily Because It Is Good"
Story Date: Thursday, September 1, 2016
Summary: In which Shiv is a salad snob.
501 lines, Buy It Now = $251
Professor O'Keeffe had done a great job
of showing everyone around Memorial Park,
pointing out where the canna bulbs and
other tender perennials had already been
dug up to store over the winter or how
the rosebushes were dropping leaves.
"Edge of Enchantment"
Story Date: Morning of Thursday, May 1, 2025
Summary: Digby and Maerwynn come to a trading post where they meet the first people in their new world.
357 lines, Buy It Now = $179
In the morning, Digby and Maerwynn
woke to song, but only half of that
came from the familiar birds.
"An Equally Valid Way of Being"
Summary: Xavia finds that becoming a werewolf improves her mental as well as physical health.
66 lines, Buy It Now = $33
Xavia Brown had been
an indifferent college student
and an avid bicycler when
bad bicycle crash left her
with arm and leg impairment
on the left side, a lot of scars,
and chronic pain that made
every day into a struggle.
Feathering the Nest
Apr. 27th, 2026 07:46 pmysabetwordsmithdialecticdreamer is hosting Feathering the Nest today. The theme for this prompt call is always fluff and comfort. Leave prompts, get ficlets!New Year's Resolutions and Other Goals
Apr. 27th, 2026 06:10 pmysabetwordsmith![[community profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/community.png){kind=small}
goals_on_dw is a community for people who like goals and goal setting. A key focus is New Year's resolutions, that being among the most popular contexts for such activities. Although the most common time is January 1, "new year" can also refer to other calendars or cultures, whatever works for you. Alternatively, just pick a time that works for you and go for it. You can introduce yourself or make new friends here. We talk about different goal systems, pros and cons of resolutions, arts and crafts for tracking goals, human psychology, and more. You can share your resolutions or other goals. There are weekly check-in posts in January, and monthly ones in the rest of the year, for folks to talk about their accomplishments. December-January is the most active period, and it starts ramping up in November as lots of people begin thinking about their goals for the next year.
2026 Free Printable Calendars, Planners, and More is the guide post for this years goal-setting activities. For more details on relevant topics, see "Things You Can Talk About Here."
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Newcomers
Apr. 27th, 2026 06:05 pmysabetwordsmithnewcomers is a community for people who are just getting started on Dreamwidth, in the tradition of twitter_refugees and reddit_refugees. This community supports former users of other platforms who are moving to Dreamwidth because their previous platform has become untenable or has closed. As such, it will increase activity with each wave of new users, in hopes of helping them get settled in Dreamwidth so they want to stick around. It also serves previous users returning after a long hiatus, people who want to do more with a Dreamwidth blog that was only intermittent, or anyone else who wants help connecting and figuring out how to use this venue.( Read more... )
Poem: "An Expression That Crosses Boundaries"
Apr. 27th, 2026 02:19 pmysabetwordsmithThis poem is spillover from the March 3, 2026 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired by prompts from fuzzyred, chanter1944, and Doug Edwards. It also fills the "Writing" square in my 3-1-26 card for the National Crafting Month Bingo fest. This poem has been sponsored by a pool with fuzzyred. It belongs to the Shiv and Rutledge threads of the Polychrome Heroics series.
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fuzzyred, chanter1944, and Doug Edwards. It also fills the "Writing" square in my 3-1-26 card for the National Crafting Month Bingo fest. This poem has been sponsored by a pool with fuzzyred. It belongs to the Shiv and Rutledge threads of the Polychrome Heroics series.( Read more... )
Birdfeeding
Apr. 27th, 2026 01:19 pmysabetwordsmithToday is cloudy, cool, and wet. It's been storming all morning. We sure need the rain.
I fed the birds.
EDIT 4/27/26 -- I did a bit of work around the patio.
I am done for the night.
I fed the birds.
EDIT 4/27/26 -- I did a bit of work around the patio.
I am done for the night.
BRAKES
Apr. 27th, 2026 12:43 pmsnoozefestaudio58F with rain and thunder out there today.
Couldn't stay up past midnight last night. Woke up at 6AM unwillingly, and feeling depressed for no reason... panic attack... rode it out... finally fell back to sleep at 7AM, and slept well because the storm rolled in. Got back up at 12:30PM... back to normal!
I feel like sleep deprivation/drastic changes to sleep cycles should either be illegal or require hazzard pay or something.
But at any rate, I'm drinking my coffee now, and watching it rain, and soon I'll get the car and take it over to Benton Auto. Then walk back here, likely with an umbrella.
Okay! I went out to get some beer, brought it back here, then went over to Benton Auto and dropped the car off.
No rain on the walk back, but high winds.
Hopefully AutoZone gave me the right parts, and this all goes smoothly today!
They just called to say the break pads are wrong! He said they're for a 6 cylinder.
I specifically put in my car's VIN into the AutoZone app before searching for the pads, so this is on AutoZone.
So now the Benton guy is gonna go buy the right ones and this whole job's gonna cost more than expected... goddammit!
Another case of professionals screwing up their only jobs... AutoZone!
I picked up the car about half an hour ago. Final price: $220.00.
Nice to have them working again! With as little driving as I do, they'll be good for another two years!
Still a bit steamed I'll have to return the other break pads. Could've done that today, but I want to catch up with the singles!
I did my fixes to the Miss Fortune mix. Exported a new main music stem with the piano (and it's convolver impulse) very low in the mix. Then I exported a piano stem by itself with no convolver impulse.
Doubling that new piano stem in Audacity, 40L/60R with 70ms lag sounds perfect!
I then redid the compression for the outro vocals... leaving the belted "whoas" uncompressed to give them a little more volume and bite.
The result sounds great so I exported as 16bit WAV. That WAV will be uploaded to SoundCloud, but I also threw it into OpenShot to create a video version for YouTube with the splash graphic as the video and the TwinCat logo fading in at the end.
I then got the Beta2 of Reavis and created a new video for that, because YouTube only has the Beta1, which was not mixed right.
So in a moment here, I'm gonna upload the vids to YouTube and then the WAV to SoundCloud.
Okay!.. it's been a busy night here in 1106, with the rain and thunder returning at sundown, in intermittent passes that continue as I write!
The original version of Reavis on YouTube (which only had 25 views) was deleted. Revais-Beta2-YTR.MP4 was uploaded to take it's place, and then Miss-Fortune-Beta1-YTR.MP4 was uploaded next... and a YT playlist was created for them.
Next I uploaded Miss-Fortune-Beta1-R.WAV to Soundcloud... and after a vetting, was allowed to opt-in to the First-Fans algorithmic, week-long promotion at 7:35PM.
I then created a new TwinCat blog post to announce the release, with embeds of both the SoundCloud, and YouTube versions, right after the opener.
This new blog post establishes a template I'll use from here on out, where it starts with a theory-query generated description, followed by song history, technical challenges, a fun fact, and then a, "what's next?" before signing off.
Back at SoundCloud, I put Miss Fortune into my Spotlight section, along with Reavis.
And then, in the "description" for the SoundCloud track, I put a copyright first, then a notice to "check the COMPANION BLOG in my profile for more info on this song," before listing the lyrics.
Also did the dishes, while waiting for different things to upload.
Now that there are two beta releases, it feels like the whole campaign has finally taken shape!
Tomorrow I'll need to finally run the "Sunday errands" on a Tuesday, and do the laundry and soforth. But I should still have time to get a start on the beta mix of, "Our Cold Feet."
But there's no rush, because OCF won't be due out until Miss Fortune's had it's time to find whatever plays it can get on SC.
After some tight budgeting through FEB, MAR, and early APR, I was able to isolate a paycheck to use for car repairs, and today successfully got the front brakes redone, with only the one glitch of now having brake pads to return to AutoZone.
After the sleep deprived, April Crunch, mandated by the annual Senior Lock-in this past weekend, I was able today, to regain psycho-physio-emotional-temporal normalcy, and not only get the 2nd beta release out there, but wash the dishes!
I've still got tomorrow to get a start on Cold Feet, and then over the work week, April will turn to May on Friday.
I'll do building checks this coming weekend once more, perhaps getting a bit more done on Cold Feet.
Next Tuesday will bring us the final play-total for Miss Fortune's week of algorithmic push, and also a paycheck to pay the May rent, and May car payment, at the last minute.
And... I'll surely do a theory-query about Cold Feet between now and then!
So stay tuned!.. and I'll be back on Saturday with an update about how Miss Fortune is faring!
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Poem: "Let the Glass Make Itself"
Apr. 27th, 2026 12:33 pmysabetwordsmithThis poem is spillover from the February 3, 2026 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired by a prompt from Laura G. It also fills the "Taking It Slow" square in my 2-1-26 card for the Valentines Bingo fest. This poem has been sponsored by a pool with fuzzyred. It belongs to the Big One thread of the Polychrome Heroics series. It follows "The Bones of Chihuly" but is listed after "To Repair the Damage of the Lumberman."
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fuzzyred. It belongs to the Big One thread of the Polychrome Heroics series. It follows "The Bones of Chihuly" but is listed after "To Repair the Damage of the Lumberman."( Read more... )
Годовщины
Apr. 27th, 2026 07:25 pmdeutschevitaГорячий шоколад с пенкой для красоты и на память. Вчера мы ходили скандинавской ходьбой в Бад Наухайм обратно. За такой длинный поход хоть и под солнцем, но против холодного ветра я себя вознаградила.
Вообще-то вчера исполнилось 40 лет Чернобыльской аварии. Праздновать такое — грех, но и забыть не получается: муж попал ликвидатором с конца мая пока не набрал в радиационную книжку тогда допустимую дозу. Потом их держали в киевском госпитале, исследовали. Домой он вернулся к августу веселый, худой, с темно-коричневыми пятнами на лице — они и сейчас моментально проявляются от любого солнца. На выплату мы купили цветной телевизор и съездили в отпуск: Таллин-Рига-Москва. Ликвидаторский паек здорово выручал нас в Перестройку. Он ни о чем не жалеет, от возможности откосить отказался сразу. Но многих его сослуживцев уже нет на свете((
А сегодня у нас годовщина, которую празднуют: 42 года семейной жизни)) Я по молодости считала, что штамп в паспорте — мещанский пережиток. Но жилищный вопрос нас всех портит, правда?) У свекров подошла тогда очередь на расширение жилплощади и на 2 семьи можно было получить двухкомнатную квартиру к имеющейся, вместо переселения в бОльшую по площади. Так нас и узаконили. В день свадьбы все зеленело, под солнцем и ветром как сейчас тут (в Харькове-то нынче метель была). Мы жили тогда на съеме у Госпрома и в ЗАГС пошли со свидетелями пешком, через Парк Шевченко. По пути собрали все стаканы в автоматах с газировкой и после регистрации (совершенно будничной, в небольшой конторской комнате) пили из них нагревшееся в пути шампанское: сладкое и пенное. В дороге на мой плащ нагадил голубь и мы немедленно решили, что это к удачному браку. Так оно и вышло
Вообще-то вчера исполнилось 40 лет Чернобыльской аварии. Праздновать такое — грех, но и забыть не получается: муж попал ликвидатором с конца мая пока не набрал в радиационную книжку тогда допустимую дозу. Потом их держали в киевском госпитале, исследовали. Домой он вернулся к августу веселый, худой, с темно-коричневыми пятнами на лице — они и сейчас моментально проявляются от любого солнца. На выплату мы купили цветной телевизор и съездили в отпуск: Таллин-Рига-Москва. Ликвидаторский паек здорово выручал нас в Перестройку. Он ни о чем не жалеет, от возможности откосить отказался сразу. Но многих его сослуживцев уже нет на свете((
А сегодня у нас годовщина, которую празднуют: 42 года семейной жизни)) Я по молодости считала, что штамп в паспорте — мещанский пережиток. Но жилищный вопрос нас всех портит, правда?) У свекров подошла тогда очередь на расширение жилплощади и на 2 семьи можно было получить двухкомнатную квартиру к имеющейся, вместо переселения в бОльшую по площади. Так нас и узаконили. В день свадьбы все зеленело, под солнцем и ветром как сейчас тут (в Харькове-то нынче метель была). Мы жили тогда на съеме у Госпрома и в ЗАГС пошли со свидетелями пешком, через Парк Шевченко. По пути собрали все стаканы в автоматах с газировкой и после регистрации (совершенно будничной, в небольшой конторской комнате) пили из них нагревшееся в пути шампанское: сладкое и пенное. В дороге на мой плащ нагадил голубь и мы немедленно решили, что это к удачному браку. Так оно и вышло
Poem: "The Graffiti of the Rich"
Apr. 27th, 2026 12:16 pmysabetwordsmithThis poem was written outside the regular prompt calls. It was inspired by a prompt from zianuray. It has been sponsored by a pool with fuzzyred. This poem belongs to the Shiv thread of the Polychrome Heroics series.
"The Graffiti of the Rich"
[Wednesday, November 5, 2014]
For months, Shiv had been
enjoying the ever-changing display
of graffiti along a retaining wall
between Blues Moon and
Buster Hump's Gym.
It was a perfect place
to get a good feel for
the neighborhood
and its current artists.
Then one day, Shiv
arrived to find that
someone had covered
the wall with grey paint.
Fuming, he glared at
the nearby billboards.
Funny how nobody ever
covered up those eyesores.
That got him thinking about
some stuff that Dr. G had said
about cultures, graffiti, and
what counted as artwork.
Smirking, he pulled out
a black paint pen and
scribbled his rebuttal.
With grey paint we silence
some voices in society.
Advertising is fine -- it is,
after all, the graffiti of the rich.
zianuray. It has been sponsored by a pool with fuzzyred. This poem belongs to the Shiv thread of the Polychrome Heroics series."The Graffiti of the Rich"
[Wednesday, November 5, 2014]
For months, Shiv had been
enjoying the ever-changing display
of graffiti along a retaining wall
between Blues Moon and
Buster Hump's Gym.
It was a perfect place
to get a good feel for
the neighborhood
and its current artists.
Then one day, Shiv
arrived to find that
someone had covered
the wall with grey paint.
Fuming, he glared at
the nearby billboards.
Funny how nobody ever
covered up those eyesores.
That got him thinking about
some stuff that Dr. G had said
about cultures, graffiti, and
what counted as artwork.
Smirking, he pulled out
a black paint pen and
scribbled his rebuttal.
With grey paint we silence
some voices in society.
Advertising is fine -- it is,
after all, the graffiti of the rich.
big challenges!! BIG CHALLENGES
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Three Weeks for Dreamwidth: Dance
Apr. 27th, 2026 01:20 amysabetwordsmithThis year during Three Weeks for Dreamwidth, I'm writing about reading as a way of becoming an expert in a given subject. Read Part 1: Introduction to Becoming an Expert, Part 2: Architecture.
Three Weeks for Dreamwidth Part 3: Dance
Dance is a performing art about moving the body, usually but not always to music. It exists in many styles. Every ethnic group or other cultural identity tends to have their own dances. Here on Dreamwidth, check outbeautifulmechanical and first_nations_freaks.
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Three Weeks for Dreamwidth Part 3: Dance
Dance is a performing art about moving the body, usually but not always to music. It exists in many styles. Every ethnic group or other cultural identity tends to have their own dances. Here on Dreamwidth, check out
beautifulmechanical and first_nations_freaks.( Read more... )
Monday Update 4-27-26
Apr. 27th, 2026 12:50 amysabetwordsmithThese are some posts from the later part of last week in case you missed them:
Poem: "Our Homemade Safety Nets"
Birdfeeding
Friending Meme
Today's Adventures
Philosophical Questions: Different
You Don't Have to Stay
Science
Birdfeeding
Today's Adventures
Birdfeeding
Follow Friday 4-24-26: Metal
Vocabulary: Scabrous
History
History
History
Community Thursdays
Earth Day
Poem: "When You Learn to Read"
Wildlife
Birdfeeding
Hard Things
Poem: "Walnut Park" has 41 comments. Early Humans has 22 comments. Philosophical Questions: Pregnancy has 66 comments. Safety has 77 comments.
Three Weeks for Dreamwidth is running April 25-May 15. People aim to make a new post each day, or participate in various activities to celebrate the platform.
Three Weeks for Dreamwidth: Introduction to Becoming an Expert
Three Weeks for Dreamwidth: Architecture
"No Faster or Firmer Friendships" belongs to Polychrome Heroics and needs $45 to be complete. Josué makes friends with Maria-Vera.
The weather has been mild here. We got some rain the other day. Seen at the birdfeeders this week: a mixed flock of sparrows and house finches, a male cardinal, and a fox squirrel. Red-winged blackbirds have been singing overhead. I heard a bluejay screaming but didn't see it. Currently blooming: violets, tulips, anemone, Solomon's seal, pansies, violas, sweet alyssum, bleeding heart, chokecherries, alliums, lilies of the valley, marigolds, honeysuckle, raspberies, snapdragons, lantana, million bells, blue lobelia, petunias, portulaca, nemesia, wild chives, star of Bethlehem. Flower buds: peonies. Green fruit: mulberries.
Poem: "Our Homemade Safety Nets"
Birdfeeding
Friending Meme
Today's Adventures
Philosophical Questions: Different
You Don't Have to Stay
Science
Birdfeeding
Today's Adventures
Birdfeeding
Follow Friday 4-24-26: Metal
Vocabulary: Scabrous
History
History
History
Community Thursdays
Earth Day
Poem: "When You Learn to Read"
Wildlife
Birdfeeding
Hard Things
Poem: "Walnut Park" has 41 comments. Early Humans has 22 comments. Philosophical Questions: Pregnancy has 66 comments. Safety has 77 comments.
Three Weeks for Dreamwidth is running April 25-May 15. People aim to make a new post each day, or participate in various activities to celebrate the platform.
Three Weeks for Dreamwidth: Introduction to Becoming an Expert
Three Weeks for Dreamwidth: Architecture
"No Faster or Firmer Friendships" belongs to Polychrome Heroics and needs $45 to be complete. Josué makes friends with Maria-Vera.
The weather has been mild here. We got some rain the other day. Seen at the birdfeeders this week: a mixed flock of sparrows and house finches, a male cardinal, and a fox squirrel. Red-winged blackbirds have been singing overhead. I heard a bluejay screaming but didn't see it. Currently blooming: violets, tulips, anemone, Solomon's seal, pansies, violas, sweet alyssum, bleeding heart, chokecherries, alliums, lilies of the valley, marigolds, honeysuckle, raspberies, snapdragons, lantana, million bells, blue lobelia, petunias, portulaca, nemesia, wild chives, star of Bethlehem. Flower buds: peonies. Green fruit: mulberries.
Poem: "Our Homemade Safety Nets"
Apr. 26th, 2026 09:36 pmysabetwordsmithThis poem came out of the March 17, 2026 Bonus Fishbowl. It was inspired by a prompt from dialecticdreamer. It also fills the "Thread" square in my 3-1-26 card for the National Crafting Month Bingo fest. This poem has been sponsored by fuzzyred. It belongs to the Mercedes thread of the Polychrome Heroics series.
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dialecticdreamer. It also fills the "Thread" square in my 3-1-26 card for the National Crafting Month Bingo fest. This poem has been sponsored by fuzzyred. It belongs to the Mercedes thread of the Polychrome Heroics series.( Read more... )